Go Team Dickwolf!

hangman-hooded:

Also, The Frogman is seriously my fucking hero for the way he’s handled the undeserved hate he’s gotten for actually speaking out in a sensible manner about the events that occurred in the past few days, and for speaking out in the first place, nevermind making that beautiful analogy. You go, Frogman.

Go through his “sensible” post, and replace “man” with “black” and see if it’s still sensible.

His argument is that you can use a very small sample to judge an entire demographic. His logic is literally the exact same as blaming Muslims for 9/11. His reasoning is indistinguishable from being instantly suspicious of a black teenager in a white neighborhood because you’ve associated them with gang activity. He has indirectly supported the idea that gay = pedophile.

Because he’s done the exact same thing.

Plus misandry as a definition may exist but as an institutionalised and systematic form of oppression it is no where near the level of misogyny which is what mras etc claim affects them
Anonymous

london-city:

rapedtosleep:

london-city:

rapedtosleep:

london-city:

^^^ yeah exactly! totally agree with u here x

Which of the following genders can legally have their genitals chopped up as infants without their consent in the western world? Men or women? Answer: Men.

Which of the following genders gets longer prison sentences for the same crime? Men or women? Answer: Men.

Who’s more likely to be assaulted, per statistics from most developed, first world countries? Answer: Men.

Male rape victims are swept under the rug, ignored, and mocked. Hell, women raping men isn’t even legally defined as rape in most jurisdictions. The numbers behind which, mind you, have been pegged (not a pun) in the neighborhood of 40% of cases.

The National Organization of Women has actively opposed fair treatment for men in family courts in the United States.

Men, in the case of events like the theater shooting in Aurora, Colorado in 2012, who show self-preservation instincts and don’t sacrifice their lives are mocked, belittled, and denigrated. This does not happen with women.

Exactly how oppressed does the anon you agree with think women are? Or are they the product of the same echo chamber that erased the fact that four of Elliot Rodger’s six victims were male for the sake of a toxic ideology?

hello who are you and how did you find my blog haha

dno if you read my other posts but i am very much against dismissing crimes against men purely because they were against men!! i can’t explain how i feel about these things without being attacked from both sides JEEZ

If you tag things, they show up in the tags. Even asks.

Sorry if that felt aggressive toward you. More toward your anon. I only tend to “attack” the morons. Just providing a counter-claim to your Anon.

Apologies, again.

Didn’t think I’d tagged it, oh haha
Ah I see, idk you should probs *all* try discussing not attacking {on all sides}
But apology totally accepted haha, no worries

Actually, it seems Tumblr’s started auto-tagging things. So I’d have to go back and check if you actively tagged it or if dumbass Anon (I can’t help it, I’m naturally aggressive) triggered Tumblr’s auto-tag. And I’m much, much too lazy for that.

Oh, this is going to cause so many more ideological dust-ups. Goddamn it, Tumblr.

Plus misandry as a definition may exist but as an institutionalised and systematic form of oppression it is no where near the level of misogyny which is what mras etc claim affects them
Anonymous

london-city:

rapedtosleep:

london-city:

^^^ yeah exactly! totally agree with u here x

Which of the following genders can legally have their genitals chopped up as infants without their consent in the western world? Men or women? Answer: Men.

Which of the following genders gets longer prison sentences for the same crime? Men or women? Answer: Men.

Who’s more likely to be assaulted, per statistics from most developed, first world countries? Answer: Men.

Male rape victims are swept under the rug, ignored, and mocked. Hell, women raping men isn’t even legally defined as rape in most jurisdictions. The numbers behind which, mind you, have been pegged (not a pun) in the neighborhood of 40% of cases.

The National Organization of Women has actively opposed fair treatment for men in family courts in the United States.

Men, in the case of events like the theater shooting in Aurora, Colorado in 2012, who show self-preservation instincts and don’t sacrifice their lives are mocked, belittled, and denigrated. This does not happen with women.

Exactly how oppressed does the anon you agree with think women are? Or are they the product of the same echo chamber that erased the fact that four of Elliot Rodger’s six victims were male for the sake of a toxic ideology?

hello who are you and how did you find my blog haha

dno if you read my other posts but i am very much against dismissing crimes against men purely because they were against men!! i can’t explain how i feel about these things without being attacked from both sides JEEZ

If you tag things, they show up in the tags. Even asks.

Sorry if that felt aggressive toward you. More toward your anon. I only tend to “attack” the morons. Just providing a counter-claim to your Anon.

Apologies, again.

kecrambles:

rapedtosleep:

kecrambles:

so approximately how many female MRAs exist, exactly

Considering female MRAs like GirlWritesWhat make up a lot of the Youtube presence and most of the major MRA blogs here have female staff, I’d put an estimate at somewhere in the ballpark of 40%-60% of the movement.

Hard to get accurate demographics.

im willing to bet with a username + post like this you have approximately nothing useful to contribute to anything at all, ever

please stay far away from my blog and from me

It’s actually born of a criticism of the trivialization of “rape culture” from an old Penny Arcade comic incident.

You’re the one who fielded and tagged the question, mate.

kecrambles:

so approximately how many female MRAs exist, exactly

Considering female MRAs like GirlWritesWhat make up a lot of the Youtube presence and most of the major MRA blogs here have female staff, I’d put an estimate at somewhere in the ballpark of 40%-60% of the movement.

Hard to get accurate demographics.

memyselfandsocialjustice:

rapedtosleep:

memyselfandsocialjustice:

memyselfandsocialjustice:

Seven women are dead.
Seven women have had their lives violently ended because a man couldn’t stand that they wouldn’t sleep with him.
And other men are DEFENDING HIM.
If this isn’t your call to action to protect women and end the MRA Movement, you need to…

Shockingly, the first comment on this post is from an MRA who, according to his blog, thinks that feminists are “cunts”. In other news, absolutely no one is surprised

Cunt
2. (
vulgar, offensive, countable) An extremely unpleasant or objectionable person (in US, especially a woman; in UK or Ireland, more usually a man).

Better luck with your attempt to derail the issue from your horrible fact checking next time, kiddo.

Cunt is also a slur often used against women to derail their position on issues. And in regards to your statement that the shooter was a part of the “pickup artists” movement, which is opposed to the MRA movement, you are correct that the Pickup Artists and the MRA’s are opposite groups. However, if you had done a little but of research, you would have found that he was a part of the online community called the “Anti Pickup Artists” Movement, a group that classifies themselves as MRA’s.
http://www.ibtimes.com/elliot-rodger-ucsb-shooter-internet-history-reveals-mens-rights-movement-beliefs-wake-mass-1589849

Your “also” is irrelevant. Unless you want to argue that usage and intent doesn’t matter. It’s not your first case of intellectual dishonesty in this exchange, mate. First would be deleting commentary. Second would be equating phrasing in an example given with “HE THINKS FEMINISTS ARE CUNTS” hysteria.

I give you props for actually looking a bit closer, but you’re still off mark.

If you had done research of your own, you would see that he’s espoused hate for “more successful” men, IE better PUAs, and considered himself the “ultimate Alpha Male” - a concept the MRM is dedicated to destroying and one PUAs believe in.

There’s also nothing to suggest the sites he visited were MRM-aligned, aside from hearsay and speculation from an echo chamber brewing hate.

To be fair, even if he were a rather shitty and poorly read MRA, this doesn’t amount to NEARLY as much blood as Feminism has on its hands, but this isn’t about that little petty squabble. This is about facts and accuracy.

… And a bored egalitarian dusting off a side blog to get back into the field, so to speak, but more the facts and accuracy.

spankjonze:

MRAs that are saying “well he didn’t just kill women!! he killed men too!” yo say that he wasn’y fueled by blatant misogyny are just derailing and ignoring the fact that this guy set out to slaughter women. that was his goal, to kill as many as he possibly could. so don’t say that this has nothing to do with male entitlement to women’s bodies just because some men got caught in the crossfire while he was on a mission to destroy women for not giving him what he felt he was owed

Disregarding the fact that the viewpoints he held, such as the idea of an Alpha Male, are exactly what MRAs and the MRM fight, shall we pin the deaths of babies drowned in the tub by their mother, or a woman murdering her boyfriend for not buying her something at the mall on female empowerment?

Or shall we recognize that certain motherfuckers snap and murder people, and not listen to echo chambers trying to spin it into hate for an entire demographic? Or recognize that what’s being called out by pointing out the male victims is the erasure of the identity of victims for the sake of hate mongering?

Also, haven’t read his full “manifesto” yet, but Shooty seemed pretty keen on killing “more successful” men from the word go.

socoamaretto:

The shooter was an active MRA…..So tell me again how opinions can’t be dangerous

Except he wasn’t and the Alpha Male mentality that he believed in is something the MRM is trying to tear down.

The Tumblr echo chamber has its facts wrong again. Like how he apparently killed seven women, when two thirds of his victims were men.

memyselfandsocialjustice:

memyselfandsocialjustice:

Seven women are dead.
Seven women have had their lives violently ended because a man couldn’t stand that they wouldn’t sleep with him.
And other men are DEFENDING HIM.
If this isn’t your call to action to protect women and end the MRA Movement, you need to…

Shockingly, the first comment on this post is from an MRA who, according to his blog, thinks that feminists are “cunts”. In other news, absolutely no one is surprised

Cunt
2. (
vulgar, offensive, countable) An extremely unpleasant or objectionable person (in US, especially a woman; in UK or Ireland, more usually a man).

Better luck with your attempt to derail the issue from your horrible fact checking next time, kiddo.

memyselfandsocialjustice:

Seven women are dead.
Seven women have had their lives violently ended because a man couldn’t stand that they wouldn’t sleep with him.
And other men are DEFENDING HIM.
If this isn’t your call to action to protect women and end the MRA Movement, you need to reevaluate, because it fucking should be.
As sad as it is that women needed to die to convey how dangerous male entitlement is, we need to act NOW to prevent it from happening again.

It’s two women and four men. The last casualty is the killer himself. Stop erasing the identity of victims for the sake of political narrative.

He wasn’t an MRA. He was a Pick Up Artist. The two groups are diametrically opposed. MRAs are dedicated to eliminating the “alpha male” concept that Shooty here believed so strongly in.

To borrow your own words…

If it isn’t your call to actually do some research, you need to reevaluate, because it fucking should be.